I did it. I finally got the disc I’ve been wanting for months. A Dynamic Discs Fluid Warden from one of my favorite online retailers Infinite Discs at the end of July. I chose a green 175g disc. I own a green 174g Warden in the Classic Soft plastic that I chose when at a Two Disc Challenge event last fall. It has been my go to putter on upshots and short holes off the tee. I can throw it RHBH and make it go where I want. It also is amazing using on a RHFH, or flick, throw when one can’t throw a backhand.
The flight rating system used to rate discs have the Warden at a 2/4/0/0.5, when looking at the Dynamic Discs online store. Infinite Discs has it rated at 2/3/0/0. While I don’t know the intricacies of the flight ratings as well as more experience disc golfers to, I can say that it does have a slight fade at the end of it’s flight. The Judge has the same 2/4/0/0.5 ratings on the Infinite Discs website as it does on the Dynamic Discs website. Notice the slight difference in the ratings between the two, which can or cannot be noticable with different players of differing skill levels, I tend to stick with the manufacturer ratings.
What I’m looking at in this post is a comparison of the Judge and the Warden. The same plastic is being used, Dynamic Discs Fluid. Here’s what they say about it.
This plastic, in regular conditions, will have a flexible quality and superb grip. When the temperature dips, this blend will retain more flexibility than any other premium plastics we offer. This will translate to better grip and more control when your hands are cold and your grip is compromised. During spring and summer temperatures this disc is perfect for the throwers that like some flex in their disc. These discs will fly with the same consistency and predictability that you are used to from Dynamic Discs.
My Judge is a misprint, but perfect in all other aspects. It weighs 171g and is perfectly flexible and grippy for me. My Warden is 175g and in perfect condition as well. Some players, pro and am alike, can feel the difference in that 4 gram differential. I, however, can’t tell much difference except for how they feel in my hand due to the bead on the Judge.
I’ve taken both discs out the the course and swapped between the two for upshots and tee shots on short holes. For me, as an amateur player with a weaker arm, the two discs perform nearly the same. I would have to say that the glide on the Warden is better than it is on the Judge in my hands. Also, when having to throw a forehand upshot from behind an obstacle, the Warden fits more comfortably in my hand. Each disc will hold a hyzer or anhyzer line if that’s what you need it to do, but will also go arrow straight with a slight fade at the end.
Speculation about the two putters pegged the Judge as a beaded version of the warden, or vice versa. I contacted Dynamic Discs for some clarification about this and received this response from Dixon Jowers.
“If you were to remove the bead they would be similar but not the same. The mold has other differences.”
There wasn’t any more detail included in his response, which is not suprising since the company would want to keep their mold differences top secret. I’ve heard such claims about other manufacturers discs, especially putters, claiming two or three differently named discs are the same mold but with or without a bead.
However you like your putter, beaded or not, is a personal preference. I believe I’ve stated before that a good explanation of the bead was made by Dave Dunipace in a SpinTV video. To summarize that video, the bead is intended to reduce the wear on the disc, not to make it more stable. After throwing the Judge for the last couple of months, I wholeheartedly agree with the purpose of the bead, as the Judge is not any more stable than the Warden. Each disc is a great putter, and I think that they are similar enough that one could interchange them as I have been doing and yield the same results. A pro might not say the same thing about the two molds, though I’d dare them to use both and see just how much they can perform alike.